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[Keith]

When we are asleep, does the ego also sleep ?

[curiotrope]

I think this question begs so many more....Why do we sleep? What is it's function in the simulation? Furthermore, dreams only occur in certain stages of sleep, and why is that? What is the function of a dream? Is it a communication between the two sides of the brain? Why do we so often forget our dreams? What about people who claim to have psychic dreams? Or de ja vu dreams? Curious.

[permie1]

Pardon my denseness but I'm not quite understanding your question. What you are referring to when you say "when we are asleep". Do you mean "asleep" in consciousness or physicality?

[Keith]

Pardon my denseness but I'm not quite understanding your question. What you are referring to when you say "when we are asleep". Do you mean "asleep" in consciousness or physicality?

What I should have said was "is the ego active while the body sleeps"
Its just that one night there was a dream where I was aware of the ego persona in me.
Sometimes I find it hard to explain things with words

[roage]

As a lucid dreamer I have observed the duality of ego and self not only in dreams but also in dreams within dreams. It seems to be attached firmly as inherent to the observer.

[roage]

I think this question begs so many more....Why do we sleep? What is it's function in the simulation? Furthermore, dreams only occur in certain stages of sleep, and why is that? What is the function of a dream? Is it a communication between the two sides of the brain? Why do we so often forget our dreams? What about people who claim to have psychic dreams? Or de ja vu dreams? Curious.

Sleep is an archive, purge and summarization of experience. The brain has physical limits. Identities and values must be placed against the day's experience. To have perfect memory of all moments in experience would quickly exceed the brains physical capacity as a holographic projector. As life is an educational experience, that raw information that fits into the lesson is retained and that which has no purpose is either summarized into a single moment identity or cleared. It is like a re-indexing of a database table.

Dreams are consciousness without a connection to the physical. Since the brain is the primary holographic interface to the universe, when it is in maintenance mode, consciousness still exists with less of the formality of universal rules enforcement.

[permie1]

I will answer both questions since they go hand in hand

Yes the Ego is always active even when the body is in a sleep state. In the sleep state the ego is operating both on the physical (material / solid) and mental (thought / liquid) plane whereas the self is operating on the mental (thought / liquid) and ethereal (dream / vapor) plane.

The sleep state has dual purpose.

The obvious purpose is health; the other is exchange of information between Ego and Self

1. The body, operating on a different frequency, requires a rest period to regenerate so that the body and mind operate at optimum level. Hence when one suffers from sleep deprivation, health issues like physical and mental illness arise

Because of physical sleep, the Ego is not focused on the senses and can therefore send off and avail crucial data to Self for creative problem solving.

In the sleep state the Ego, while still connected to the body vacillates between physical and mental plane. In this physical sleep state the ego summarize the collections and records all the data of the day’s events and conveys the experience to Self in the mental plane. There the translation takes place between Ego and Self. What the Ego assimilates in words, senses, logic.etc. Self assimilates in pictures

2. So it is in the ethereal plane, that Self examines and discards all unusable data, reconciles emotions, events, logical consequences etc...,puts them together in packets of data much like a frame on a movie strip and when all is imprinted and registered then Self runs the “movie’ i.e. dreams

It is through dreams that unresolved incidences are worked out and the imparting and gathering of information in pure unbiased logic. Dreams are a connection from the conscious to the subconscious and vice versa. We do not forget our dreams we simply just retain that which is needed and brought forth to be “remembered” otherwise it is placed and catalogued for reference.

There are many types of dreams such as day dream, lucid dream, psychic dream, nightmares, hallucinations and déjà-vu and more.

In day dream one is in default mode or idle mode. The mind is open to abstract concept and imaginative ramblings. This dream operates in the physical plane

“The ability to think abstractly that flourishes during daydreams also has important social benefits. Mostly, what we daydream about is each other, as the mind retrieves memories, contemplates "what if" scenarios, and thinks about how it should behave in the future. In this sense, the content of daydreams often resembles a soap opera, with people reflecting on social interactions both real and make-believe. We can leave behind the world as it is and start imagining the world as it might be, if only we hadn't lost our temper, or had superpowers, or were sipping a daiquiri on a Caribbean beach. It is this ability to tune out the present moment and contemplate the make-believe that separates the human mind from every other.” Jonah Lehrer

In lucid dream we are aware that we are dreaming. We actively participate and are aware that the experience is not real and that there is nothing to fear even if the situation may prove to be dangerous like falling off a cliff. One may manipulate the experience by growing wings and fly or just experience how it feels to have broken limbs without it actually happening. This dream operates in the mental plane

In psychic dream, one can perceive certain events from minutes ahead to months or even years later. That is not to say one can see into the future, simply put, one is riding the waveform but instead of collapsing it one is tapping into it. This dream operates in the mental and ethereal plane

Nightmares evoke a number of disturbing emotions. They mostly occur when there is corporal or emotional stress caused by trauma, illness drugs etc. This dream operates in the physical plane

Déjà-vu evokes a feeling that one has seen or done something or been to a particular place. This feeling appears when one is “reliving” an event in actual life that has been dreamed about. It is akin to Psychic dreams and waking dream in so far that one has tapped into the waveform but in déjà-vu one is also leaving clues or markers to acknowledge the spiritual path or growth. This dream operates in the physical, mental and ethereal plane.

“We know that the brain processes newly acquired information while we sleep, and although the function of dreaming is unknown, some researchers believe that it plays an important role in memory consolidation. Our dreams may be a manifestation of the brain activity associated with 'replaying' the day's events, so dream recall can be thought of as a form of episodic, or autobiographical, memory.
Indeed, previous studies have shown that brain waves in the frontal and temporal lobes can predict encoding and subsequent recall of episodic memories, and that they can even be used to distinguish between true and false memories. We also know that oscillatory activity in the frontal and temporal lobes plays an important role in memory formation, and that interactions between these two regions are necessary for long-term memory storage.
The new study shows that dreaming and dream recall appear to involve the same brain wave patterns as encoding and retrieval of episodic memories. This suggests that the brain mechanisms underlying memory encoding and retrieval during sleep are the same as those during waking hours. “
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Marzano, C., et al. (2011). Recalling and Forgetting Dreams: Theta and Alpha Oscillations during Sleep Predict Subsequent Dream Recall. J. Neurosci. 31: 6674-6683 DOI: 10.1523/JNEUROSCI.0412-11.2011.

Namaste

[curiotrope]

Permie1, I'm impressed by your thorough post!

Because of physical sleep, the Ego is not focused on the senses and can therefore send off and avail crucial data to Self for creative problem solving.

This makes sense. Perhaps dreams are different permutations of the days events? My grandmother used to figure out how to finish Mario levels in her sleep. lol

In the sleep state the Ego, while still connected to the body vacillates between physical and mental plane. In this physical sleep state the ego summarize the collections and records all the data of the day’s events and conveys the experience to Self in the mental plane. There the translation takes place between Ego and Self. What the Ego assimilates in words, senses, logic.etc. Self assimilates in pictures

I think the Self also assimilates most sounds, noises, music.

2. So it is in the ethereal plane, that Self examines and discards all unusable data, reconciles emotions, events, logical consequences etc...,puts them together in packets of data much like a frame on a movie strip and when all is imprinted and registered then Self runs the “movie’ i.e. dreams

It is through dreams that unresolved incidences are worked out and the imparting and gathering of information in pure unbiased logic. Dreams are a connection from the conscious to the subconscious and vice versa. We do not forget our dreams we simply just retain that which is needed and brought forth to be “remembered” otherwise it is placed and catalogued for reference.

Interesting. I have a friend who was once very sick and in a coma for six weeks. When he woke up it seems he had resolved quite a bit of ego clutter in his sleep.