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Further from "the grail"

Postby kid.vulpes » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:04 pm

I had found myself contemplating life when i had an experience. I came to a certain conclusion about the "meaning of life" when i suddenly felt, what i was sure of, the presence of the source or god. ill save the details of the experience, but i felt a certainty that if i turned around i would be in the presence of my creator and humbled by a recounting of my past. Out of shame, i couldnt bring myself to look. That was about a year ago, and ive regretted not turning around and have been trying to make a reconnection.

As it's turned out, the more ive tried to get back to that point, the more i feel like it's escaping my grasp. After awhile i decided to just let go. Now i find myself back here on this forum... im not sure if im seeking advice or help, but i felt compelled to put this in writing.

Having said that, i hope everyone has been well and enjoying life's twists and turns.
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Re: Further from "the grail"

Postby roage » Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:28 pm

kid.vulpes wrote:I had found myself contemplating life when i had an experience. I came to a certain conclusion about the "meaning of life" when i suddenly felt, what i was sure of, the presence of the source or god. ill save the details of the experience, but i felt a certainty that if i turned around i would be in the presence of my creator and humbled by a recounting of my past. Out of shame, i couldnt bring myself to look. That was about a year ago, and ive regretted not turning around and have been trying to make a reconnection.

As it's turned out, the more ive tried to get back to that point, the more i feel like it's escaping my grasp. After awhile i decided to just let go. Now i find myself back here on this forum... im not sure if im seeking advice or help, but i felt compelled to put this in writing.

Having said that, i hope everyone has been well and enjoying life's twists and turns.


Have you pushed the button on the main site page?

Have you read or listened to the audio book: "A New Earth"? It does not reveal the law but it can show you how to increase you level of awareness and consciousness.

There is no need to return back to what you are. That presence is you, it is me. We are one presence in the form of countless actors. It appeared as it did merely to show you that you are, nothing more. Simply know you are there. It was a glimpse. You are distracting yourself by chasing it. You are it. It cannot return because it never left.

Does this help?

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Re: Further from "the grail"

Postby kid.vulpes » Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:57 pm

roage wrote:You are distracting yourself by chasing it. You are it. It cannot return because it never left.


Fascinating. So, in essence, my perception of previous events was placing "the source" as behind me thereby perceiving it as external to me... as a separate entity. By trying to reconnect with a mistaken perception, I was cementing it as external... making it so the more I tried to close the gap, the wider it got. What an odd mechanism? I'm like a wren fighting my reflection in a window, amazed that my opponent knows my every move. Im going to let that simmer while I listen to that New Earth you mentioned.

One question regarding contracts: Contracts are between two minds, but is it possible to, knowingly or unknowingly, enter into a contract with yourself? If so, can you release yourself from that contract?
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Re: Further from "the grail"

Postby roage » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:32 am

kid.vulpes wrote:
roage wrote:You are distracting yourself by chasing it. You are it. It cannot return because it never left.


Fascinating. So, in essence, my perception of previous events was placing "the source" as behind me thereby perceiving it as external to me... as a separate entity. By trying to reconnect with a mistaken perception, I was cementing it as external... making it so the more I tried to close the gap, the wider it got. What an odd mechanism? I'm like a wren fighting my reflection in a window, amazed that my opponent knows my every move. Im going to let that simmer while I listen to that New Earth you mentioned.

One question regarding contracts: Contracts are between two minds, but is it possible to, knowingly or unknowingly, enter into a contract with yourself? If so, can you release yourself from that contract?


Great awareness. Contracts are possible in ego or physicality. In self they are meaningless and funny. It requires true willingness to leave that paradigm (contract). In ego it appears as a contract with an external entity. This is not where one goes. It is where one is leaving. Knowledge of the law is required to know what you are leaving. Change cannot occur until we observe what has changed. In right brain you see how foolish a contract is when there does not exist another being in which to make contract with. More importantly who places obligations on me but myself? All that remains is testing till that trust and certainty is sufficient such as one realizes their freedom.
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