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Integrity of self

Postby alik996 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:48 pm

I think it is an essential part of the process. But many of people have problems with self integrity (Kids complexes, traumas, bad marriages, etc.)
Many of the “issues” are not really easy to fix, without professional help. (They will not get fixed on its own)

How to overcome those issues?
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Re: Integrity of self

Postby Swift46 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:20 pm

Not by going to a psychaotrist
Brevity is wit, the perfect excuse to my short posts
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Re: Integrity of self

Postby Nect4r$ » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:03 am

alik996 wrote:I think it is an essential part of the process. But many of people have problems with self integrity (Kids complexes, traumas, bad marriages, etc.)
Many of the “issues” are not really easy to fix, without professional help. (They will not get fixed on its own)

How to overcome those issues?


To avoid digressing and to keep it simple, it can be learned and applied most rapidy through the Supreme Law. In fact, of all the mental/spiritual practices I've done its by far the fastest way.

Take the examples you gave above. What is the main cause of suffering in any of those? Victim creation through either being bonded to a contract you've knowingly or unknowingly broken, or through giving someone else(either a spouse, parents, kids) authority over you in which case you become a slave(victim) subserviant to that authority.

"Ignorance of the Law is no excuse".

Just remember integrity is nothing more than "Walking the Walk", it has nothing to do with moralism, thats an ego trick and is subject to the Law of the Supreme Authority, not us. If we believe with conviction in what we're doing and do it, its an integrous action, so know your motives before doing so. Be careful that you place your trust where it should be(in Ø only) and pay attention to your conscience as "integrity" has its traps as well. For instance, suicide bombers and kamikazes are "integrous"; they believe fully that what they're doing is right.

Anyway, it's beneficial for one to see this in operation for themselves. If one wants consistant integrity, become aware of the contracts you're making all the time as it can literally be done hundreds of times a day without us even noticing if we're not paying attention.

"What comes out of a mans mouth is far more important than what goes into it"

Heres a few main areas you may want to take a closer look at in yourself with regards to Contact. Stay with the question, ask the Supreme Authority to reveal them to you if you have trouble with finding or seeing them in yourself. For most they are there and very obvious.

- Do you give others advice?
- Do you ever boast?

These two are insidious. In doing so we're inviting a test of our commitment to upholding the contracts put in place(either with the Self/Ø or others) while doing them. "Can we walk the walk?"

- Do you feel a need to explain yourself?
- Do you complain alot?

This comes from Taoist teachings and is pretty straight forward victim creation. (Un?)fortunately this perpetuates a cycle of experience as ones not learning the lesson or underlying motivator of them.

"If you change the rules on what controls you, you change the rules of what you can control" - Revolver

To boil it down.

Know the Supreme Law. Trust the Supreme Authority only without question. Be conscious of your conscience.
Be aware.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Integrity of self

Postby Gooseone » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:23 am

If one is ready, one is able to review almost any situation one has been in , and learning the accompagnying lesson.
If you have an issue , try to visualise yourself having that issue , observe while realising fear is unfounded....what's there to learn ?
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Re: Integrity of self

Postby Joseph » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:54 pm

Nect4r$ wrote:Heres a few main areas you may want to take a closer look at in yourself with regards to Contact. Stay with the question, ask the Supreme Authority to reveal them to you if you have trouble with finding or seeing them in yourself. For most they are there and very obvious.

- Do you give others advice?
- Do you ever boast?

These two are insidious. In doing so we're inviting a test of our commitment to upholding the contracts put in place(either with the Self/Ø or others) while doing them. "Can we walk the walk?"

- Do you feel a need to explain yourself?
- Do you complain alot?


You cannot give people any advice ? Including the obvious ones like trust your conscience and trusting the "high power"? What if people ask you?

What's wrong with explaining yourself? I heard that from Zen teaching before. I am not sure if I completely understand the rationale.
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Re: Integrity of self

Postby Moose » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:28 pm

alik996 wrote:I think it is an essential part of the process. But many of people have problems with self integrity (Kids complexes, traumas, bad marriages, etc.)
Many of the “issues” are not really easy to fix, without professional help. (They will not get fixed on its own)

How to overcome those issues?


When one connects the link that was once broken you will see, that everything belonging to integrity of which you speak no longer has a function for it's very exsitance is a lesson not faced to begin with.

Professional help is no more than another confused Man corrupted within the education system that is placed to keep ones true self in the shadows without voice.
Issues are created within. There is no real external.
Embrace the pain and you will win this game.
I Am All That Is. You Can Not 'Grant' Me My Freedom. I AM Freedom.
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Re: Integrity of self

Postby roage » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:37 pm

Joseph wrote:You cannot give people any advice ? Including the obvious ones like trust your conscience and trusting the "high power"? What if people ask you?

What's wrong with explaining yourself? I heard that from Zen teaching before. I am not sure if I completely understand the rationale.


Excellent!

Offered advice is seldom taken. Asking helps, as we give ourselves permission to listen and the one who offers is treated less skeptically.

I explain myself constantly and I get called on it often, as I am told it appears "defensive". I would rather be understood gratuitously than misunderstood. I like to demonstrate by example and it is important that the motive for an action or a comment is known so its purpose is more discernible. I will take the risk of appearing condescending because the explanation is not for the one that knows, it is for the one that does not and they usually cannot admit they do not know and that is OK.

Trusting your conscience and trusting a "Higher power" (Ø not a lower form) is the same as that conscience is the Self or Ø directly. This is not to be confused with the voice more often found in our heads pre-transition, that being the Ego.
“In matters of experience: suffering succeeds where often conscience fails us.” Roage
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