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[thequestforthequest]

And clicked on the pull down menu 'Blog Articles:' on the main site.
i closed my eyes. scrolled down and just clicked. 3 times
and everytime this article was opened.

i find that confusing.
i cannot be that bad ?

[roage]

And clicked on the pull down menu 'Blog Articles:' on the main site.
i closed my eyes. scrolled down and just clicked. 3 times
and everytime this article was opened.

i find that confusing.
i cannot be that bad ?

Ok, let's sip to the good part.

What are the chances that this "accidentally" happened?

The chance is zero. You read the article because it contained something that you needed to learn.

It was being brought to your attention because you asked for it.

Do you remember when I asked you to list what you were afraid of?

You listed fears that you were conscious of and not the truly dangerous ones that you cannot see even exist in you.

When you chose to list them you gave yourself permission to know what you are truly afraid of.

Ø began using your reality to show you these hidden fears and forced you to see one that you are not yet aware of.

Your confusion is because you expected the words to provide you meaning.

Words are only the label for the meaning and purpose behind them. The definition of the words could not reveal the meaning.

Meaning comes when you look past the words and allow it to come directly into your mind.

The topic suggests that you have a fear surrounding something in the article that was chosen for you to read.

Your post indicates a discomfort surrounding the idea of Hell.

You need to think about the questions I am about to ask you:

Are you afraid of hell?

Are you so afraid of hell that you are making your life hell just to get used to being in hell?

Even worse are you afraid there is no Hell?

Why would that be worse?

Could it be that without a Hell one could not somehow repay all the wrongs they think they have done to someone else?

Do you still think that things are happening by accident?

Are you beginning to see that something is moving you through a specific and well thought out process?

Are you afraid of letting that "whatever it is" do this for you?

If there were only one being, is it even possible to create a "victim" of another being?

If I needed you to hit me in the face so that I learned not to be rude to people do you not see how you are actually helping me?

What other good lessons have you taught others with all the things you mistakenly thought you have done wrong?

Would you deprive them of those wonderful lessons even though they might not see what a great thing you have done for them?

Do you see how you placing yourself and others into the position of a victim creates the necessary suffering that we all need to learn what not to do?

Don't you know that you were forgiven for everything you have done and you will ever do before you even became conscious?

Why can't you forgive yourself when Ø already has?

Do you think your grade card is more important than Ø's?

Relax. It was and is all "practice". The universe was designed so that you can fail to learn how to succeed and get past your "errors".

If you are in hell it was not because Ø put you there it is because you did just for the "fun" lesson.

How is that working out for you?

Looks to me like you are taking the perfect steps to have the change you need.

Give yourself a break it seems to me, that like no other person in the Universe, you deserve it the most.

Love,
Roage

[permie1]

I'm not one to mince a lot of words and so I come straight to the point.

There is no hell. There is no running to or from hell. It is only a state of mind and of Ego creation plain and simple. Hell is an uncomfortable mind set where severe conflicting emotions like guilt, anger, sadness, self deprecation, loathing and so forth occurs, resulting in tremendous emotional, mental and physical pain, for the sake of that particular life lesson. Everyone has a degree of hell they go through. Hell is revisited every time a lesson is ignored or not realized and with every visit the pain and confusion becomes stronger, more uncomfortable and more burdensome until the lesson has either been learned or one cracks.

Namaste

[thequestforthequest]

These questions really hit home.

It might take a few weeks to think about them / see them through.

Thank you very much, permie1 and roage, for your help.

Namaste,

[thequestforthequest]

Could it be that granting of souvereignty is automatic?
Or do I have to ask verbally in a clear and audible voice?
or is pushing The Button acceptance of souvereignty contract?

I was led to look at this smiley. Why?

[thequestforthequest]

I was actually talking about Divine Grace and Protection. The Holy Grail. Could it be put in place automatically?

[roage]

I was actually talking about Divine Grace and Protection. The Holy Grail. Could it be put in place automatically?

To answer you question yes it has always been there. That is not the problem. The problem is that one cannot see it or does not know how to realize it is there.

We cannot see it because we trust ego to tell us what the truth is and we willingly allow ego to hide it from us when it is right before our eyes.

When I say relax, you have nothing to be afraid of, you cannot die, you cant mess things up and be happy.

You cannot allow yourself to believe it until you teach yourself how to believe and prove to yourself that that is the Truth.

Actually it is not a problem. You either choose to do it (which you are afraid of doing right now) or you don't.

So you have it. What do you do now?

[Swift46]

So its been 2 years since ive learned all of this information, what was really suppost to happen? why hasnt it, i dont know why. I mean, i learned the question of why was i here, and i did get proof through synchronicity about the existance of ahn once but now its devolved to nothing more than a religious-like belief supported by nothing than reminicance of the past. It seems what i want is to know myself, i want some sort of meaning. I think im never going to be satisfied in life, 1 year ago my goal was to get into the university im in right now, i was anxious as hell all those months, but now that im in im no happier than i was before, although i danced when i got accepted at first. It seems I thought that university would do something different for me than what it actually was gonna do. In some studies conducted 1 year after a person won a lottery and 1 year after a person got into a carcrash their happiness was on the same level. I keep on trying to look for more information hoping for some kind of apithany but i guess that can only come from a change from the inside, likewise a change in lifestyle. Where should i be again in this process?

[Seamus]

Right where you are. That's a sincere, honest answer. When you can be OK with just being you, right now, right where you are, that's the beginning of fun times. while you are worrying about whether you are right or wrong, you can never enjoy life. That's what it's about isn't it? But you have to love yourself in order to give yourself permission to give the ego the finger.

[thequestforthequest]

So its been 2 years since ive learned all of this information, what was really suppost to happen? why hasnt it, i dont know why. I mean, i learned the question of why was i here, and i did get proof through synchronicity about the existance of ahn once but now its devolved to nothing more than a religious-like belief supported by nothing than reminicance of the past. It seems what i want is to know myself, i want some sort of meaning.[...] hoping for some kind of apithany but i guess that can only come from a change from the inside, likewise a change in lifestyle. Where should i be again in this process?

I like let The Buddha to answer

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
-- Buddha

Swift46,

I learned that it is important to be true to myself and to my own insights about my own experience.
How can another man or woman who is first and foremost occupied with his/her own problems give advice to you about your life that has any kind of value.
I am still quoting a lot. Maybe I am projecting and this "advice" of mine does not fit your experience and life at all. after all, Swift, I do not know you. But thats exactly what I am talking about. Have you met anyone on this site in real life?

I hope these little statements of mine have been of help.

maybe asking Ø for guidance, wisdom and/or help, helped.