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[maja]

Is Ø really perfect?
I can grasp that he/she is perfect from our point of view from inside the game, as he/she is indeed perfect for this Universe and all it's beings and elements. If I sound blasphemous, it is not what I want to achieve, so please forgive me. But ---- on the other hand, it is this non-conformity with most beliefs of God on this Earth that brought me here in the first place. I know that logic is ego based, but it is logic that put me in this place at this time. So, please bear with me, as I am still learning and still using logic and my intentions are exclusively for the purpose of learning and understanding.
This illusion we call the Universe is a classroom so it implies that Ø is learning. In that sense it is hard for me to accept that Ø is perfect, as perfection is already knowing everything there is to know. So, from my point of view (left brain perspective, still), Ø is learning in order to become more perfect (if you get what I mean). And I'm OK with it, in the sense that this conclusion does not make Ø unworthy of my uncoditional trust and my owe of him because to me, he/she is perfect....he runs this intricate show, all of it, every little detail so perfectly.
So, is all of this utter nonsense from your right brain perspective? Maybe Ø will answer me shortly

[D@mien]

The unspoiled child love it's parents unconditionally and has not learnt how to value things as perfect or not, good or bad, strong or weak and so on. When something is seen as beautiful automatically something has to be ugly and vice versa. When something is perfect then something has to be the opposite. Love is whit out boundaries. The "imperfections" lays in us to evolve. All is as it should be.

When we are no longer on the outside looking in then we can lay down beside the fire in our fathers/mothers home.

Love

[roage]

"Perfection" itself may bear no resemblance to what man believes it to be. The BP oil spill may be perfection. The perfection of disaster manufacturing for entertainment purposes.

[maja]

Yes, I get that anything I know may be in total oposition of what truly is....it's just that I understand perfection like a state that would need no more improvement, like no change for the better, so no action or anything would be required, which on the other hand sounds boring, and thus imperfect.... ... well, I am only a human being and not even a sovereign one yet...
I do not even know why I am thinking about these things now when I should be studying the process on roage's site!
Probably because I find myself in good company which I craved for all my life...someone with whom I could have an interesting (for me, that is) conversation, not only a monolog where the other party would like stare through me with this look on his/her face : "what the f...k?" and me giving up on the whole idea afterwards. Of course I am thankfull for my husband, but after so many years we have shared almost everything there is to share and we have the same thoughts most of the time.

I was thinking that maybe this illusion is like a preparation ground for a project that would be for real... maybe Ø is testing all the angles so he/she can figure out the best way for making a real "world" ...

Of to read about the law of contracting and about the sovereign.... even though I read /tested myself so many times, the sovereign concept might keep something still hidden for me to discover.

Thank you.

[roage]

I do not even know why I am thinking about these things now when I should be studying the process on roage's site!

I was thinking that maybe this illusion is like a preparation ground for a project that would be for real... maybe Ø is testing all the angles so he/she can figure out the best way for making a real "world" ...

Of to read about the law of contracting and about the sovereign.... even though I read /tested myself so many times, the sovereign concept might keep something still hidden for me to discover.

Thank you.

Yeah now why are you thinking about this? Why listen to me when it seems you are generating the right kind of questions all by yourself?

seems you are far enough down the road such that it will take on a life of its own. Your life. All you need to do now is pay attention to it. Or not...either way, it will happen exactly as it should.

[maja]

Well I thought about why am i doing it... simply because I want to know the answers, I am asking them in writting to confirm that I REALLY want to know... my conversation with Ø is not so obvious yet, but it is there and developing. Along with my trust.
This process is so not what I expected....it is much better! And it is fun... never thought that I would enjoy so much discovering what's going on, all those little and BIG clues all over the place, all by myself with Ø's helping hand off course!
The other day my ego was in full blast, throwing a tantrum, and it calmed down in less then half an hour ...that never ever happened before, it used to drag me all the way down for days....and I did not even try to calm it (I just received a piece of truthfull information from Ø). I honestly believe it was Ø that put him back to its place. I would say I know it was Ø, but I can't because Mr. Green is an intelligent opponent so I am staying alert. If it was him all I could say that it was so cleverly done or I'm easily fooled. Anyway, he is to deal with Ø from now on and we all know who is going to win

I keep seeing numbers in sequences and patterns 12:34 or 12:21...I should check the Numerology part of the forum in search for meaning.

Admins, Sorry if my last few posts where not placed rightly in this Enlightment questions & answers part of the forum, because I realise they are not really questions but could not find them a better place.

[Deckard666]

If found this number list very helpful. Kudos to the original poster

I would say in short "It' fun to learn and advance." to describe it. You begin to see that it's a simulation and that you can make it through much easier and unhurt if you follow the rules and trust.

Namaste,

Deckard

[maja]

these last few days I do not feel Ø ... I find myself wanting more than ever that connection with Ø since I felt it, "saw" it, lived it ... I know that "pushing" it wont help... has it happened to someone?
I was waiting for some unlearned lessons to "present" themselves, but nothing came.
Don't know what's going on...
Please deliver me (listening to Sarah Brightman )

[Richard]

maja,
might that not in it self be a lesson?

[permie1]

Hello Maja and welcome to the forum.

I have to agree with Richard the lesson is in itself. In my opinion a lesson has presented itself to you and an answer your own question has been given as well.
e. g.

I was waiting for some unlearned lessons to "present" themselves, but nothing came.

The lesson is don’t force, don't expect and be patient.

I know that pushing it won't help...

Here is your answer, again don’t force, don't expect and be patient.

The lessons are there all around you but you cannot perceive if you do not put yourself in correct perspective. Your intuition will serve you better than your intellect at this point. Just relax and let it happen. Become the observer and see all there is around you, see things with a new sense of wonder. Eventually you will be able to read between the lines and in time, you will find things will fall into place for you and you may start to find things amusing where before would be very upsetting for you.

has it happened to someone?

Hitting what seemed to be a holding pattern has happened to all of us as you will see when you read prior posts on this forum.

Peace