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the film Avatar (warning: spoilers)

Postby Seamus » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:43 pm

As a famous sovereign once said, "I might have gone a different way with it", but whatever you might think about it, this film IS a catalyst for awakening. It serves to further the idea of the virtual universe model popularized by the Matrix.

My take on the pivotal sequences:

Pitting Good vs. Evil and letting the "good" guys win is a way to fill the seats. The real theme of the film is the choice to be complacent or to actively engage one's possibility/destiny matrix through abandonment to Ø (Eywa). The character Jake Sully says, after being cast out by the Omatikayu (an aural anagram for Mitakuye O(yashin), "we are all family", in Lakota) says in voiceover "sometimes your whole life boils down to just one crazy move". You might think he is talking about jumping onto the back of the Turuk, but I think that Eywa (an aural anagram for 'YHWH') is referring to the choice he made when he decided to throw away his life in the real world in order to stand against those who were going too far in their creation of victims. As far as he knew, he gave himself a death sentence, whether it be immediate or in ten years when the bearings in the link chamber coil ring wore out. He found something worth dying for, and in doing so found a reason to live in a state of faith.

On an unrelated note:

When I first saw this film I saw my home. I recognized the feel of the culture that was depicted. I recognized the facial type. I made a post on Icke last year about the dream I had concerning Leonine (lion-type) extraterrestrials.

here's a quote:
The dream:
I arose out of a formless, dreamless state into a large rounded room that seemed immediately to be inside a vessel of some sort. The walls had raised panels and ribs, and were several shades of brown (so it seemed). There were several species of ETs standing before me, and I was being asked to choose which kind to go with. There were tall greys, short greys, little blue guys, reptilians (who didn't seem threatening or dangerous, just cold) all in pairs or threes, and a Lion-type ET standing by himself. And the weirdest thing, He had a jar in his hand, but I couldn't see what was inside it. And I heard the Led Zeppelin lyric "I saw a lion, he was standing alone with a tadpole in a jar" and I sensed that the jar contained a very delicate genetic experiment that needed such care and attention that this Lion had to take it everywhere with him. I felt a great affinity toward him.

Of all the types, i chose to go with the Lions, and almost immediately woke up.


and as is plain to see, the faces of the Na'vi are very feline.

Curious, no?
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Re: the film Avatar (warning: spoilers)

Postby darkrue » Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:38 pm

That's an interesting dream and it sounds very fitting :)

I still haven't seen this movie yet, so I can't comment on my personal experience of this film other than what I've heard from friends and family who've seen it.

I did hear something interesting yesterday in that a lot of people have found themselves feeling extremely depressed after seeing Avatar. Not because they didn't like it, but because it was such a beautiful existence that folks are having a difficult time dealing with the so-called reality of life here on earth. It's as though people are getting a taste of how wonderful that particular world is, and deep down in their hearts know that it is completely possible for us to live like that, but we've gotten so far off track that it seems impossible to ever achieve such a magical existence.

I have a feeling that this particular movie is opening the eyes of many of those who were blind to the possibilities, and they are just now realizing how blind we have all really have been. I'm sure the depression stems from the sheer helplessness they feel, like something was turned on inside of them but feel they can't do anything about it. My heart goes out to those people and anyone else feeling that way.

I hope to see Avatar soon. :)
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Re: the film Avatar (warning: spoilers)

Postby Seamus » Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:06 pm

I'll include here an email i sent to a fellow calling himself "ferret" on blogspot. He wrote a review of Avatar, and slammed it on a couple of key spots. I am glad he did, because it made me consider the film and its purpose more deeply.

edit: deleted post that just puffed my own ego.
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Re: the film Avatar (warning: spoilers)

Postby Seamus » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:59 pm

I have viewed this film 7 times now, most recently last night.

There is a tremendous amount of embedded numerological and archetypal symbolism in this film. It is definitely a catalyst. Of what sort, yet remains to be seen.

While watching the film, I find my thoughts drifting on the subjects which the embedded symbols suggest. Namely, the virtual nature of our life, the recursiveness of said virtuality, and, what is the baseline reality, or at least, what can be known about it?

Dreams within dreams... It is stated again and again in the film, you need to wake up. But what is awake and what is asleep? I wake from one level of existence to another. Then I realize that the new level not the ultimate, either. With this realization I also realize that the pattern is recursive, perhaps infinitely! Infinite bigness and infinite smallness within the finite description of light upon the liquid darkness that ultimately encompasses all that is.

The darkness, does it possess consciousness?

The authority of the Supreme, whence comes it?

I get the feeling, once again, that there is someone infinitely bigger than me, and perhaps bigger than existence, trying with infinite patience to stuff me (us?) back into the hole I (we?) came from. But I'm out here. I came out here. I don't want to miss anything! But then, all that is out here is circumscribed by pain and suffering. But is it, really? Who says it is? Who is a victim? Who is hurt against their will? Who is forced to participate in life?

Maybe the darkness, and maybe that's where the force pushing me back into the unknown internal eternal originates.

If I had been satisfied with the internal eternal I would not have looked outside.

If there is an Other outside, wouldn't it behoove it to communicate?

Is that where dark dreams of brute force and gnashing iron come from?

Can it communicate what is, or must it resort to what is not, due to its Ultimate Yin Nature?

I have so many questions that have no clear answer, or maybe I just don't want to know the answer.

Is existence of light a torture upon the dark?

Do I really want to know?
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Re: the film Avatar (warning: spoilers)

Postby roage » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:43 pm

Seamus wrote:While watching the film, I find my thoughts drifting on the subjects which the embedded symbols suggest. Namely, the virtual nature of our life, the recursiveness of said virtuality, and, what is the baseline reality, or at least, what can be known about it?

The darkness, does it possess consciousness?

The authority of the Supreme, whence comes it?

I get the feeling, once again, that there is someone infinitely bigger than me, and perhaps bigger than existence, trying with infinite patience to stuff me (us?) back into the hole I (we?) came from. But I'm out here. I came out here. I don't want to miss anything! But then, all that is out here is circumscribed by pain and suffering. But is it, really? Who says it is? Who is a victim? Who is hurt against their will? Who is forced to participate in life?

Maybe the darkness, and maybe that's where the force pushing me back into the unknown internal eternal originates.

If I had been satisfied with the internal eternal I would not have looked outside.

If there is an Other outside, wouldn't it behoove it to communicate?

Is that where dark dreams of brute force and gnashing iron come from?

Can it communicate what is, or must it resort to what is not, due to its Ultimate Yin Nature?

I have so many questions that have no clear answer, or maybe I just don't want to know the answer.

Is existence of light a torture upon the dark?

Do I really want to know?


I want to answer your questions in an entirely right-brain way. Left-brain thinkers you may have trouble with this: :twisted:


"Images by Tyrone Greene"

Dark and lonely on a summer's night.
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking. Do he bite?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Slip in his window. Break his neck.
Then his house I start to wreck.
Got no reason. What the heck?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L my land lord!

Wake up Mr. Green :mrgreen:
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Re: the film Avatar (warning: spoilers)

Postby Seamus » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:22 pm

roage wrote:
I want to answer your questions in an entirely right-brain way. Left-brain thinkers you may have trouble with this: :twisted:


"Images by Tyrone Greene"

Dark and lonely on a summer's night.
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Watchdog barking. Do he bite?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
Slip in his window. Break his neck.
Then his house I start to wreck.
Got no reason. What the heck?
Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.
C-I-L-L my land lord!

Wake up Mr. Green :mrgreen:

Whew! Thanks, I needed that. :D

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