Mark Hafner seems to know a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vXgUBxq ... dded#at=68
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What do you guys think of this
by Keith » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:02 am
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Re: What do you guys think of this
by roage » Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:01 am
EXCELLENT!
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Re: What do you guys think of this
by permie1 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:52 pm
Wow! Good find Keith! I certainly agree with most of what he says, but I will research some of the information to verify its validity. 
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Re: What do you guys think of this
by Keith » Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:01 am
I take it you all found part 2, but just in case you didn't here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkBlVS5 ... re=related
The information on the roage site ties in exactly with what he is saying.
A question answered from a convicted felon,will I be welcome in the new republic was answered, if there was no injured person or property, then you are a free man.
Are we seeing a light at the end of the tunnel here guys.
The information on the roage site ties in exactly with what he is saying.
A question answered from a convicted felon,will I be welcome in the new republic was answered, if there was no injured person or property, then you are a free man.
Are we seeing a light at the end of the tunnel here guys.
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Re: What do you guys think of this
by Keith » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:29 pm
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Re: What do you guys think of this
by Seamus » Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:58 pm
I was with him, mostly, until he started praying to the impostor Jehovah. Not that Jehovah isn't one with all of us. He is, but he is being very persistently stubborn about elevating himself above his fellow-beings at this time.
It wasn't just who he was praying to that bothered me, however. It was the deeply Religious (read: tritely self-righteous) way in which he prayed.
Then it hit me: he's talking about wresting back every man's sovereignty from the Fiction and then turning that same hard-won sovereignty over to a properly-elected group of representatives. I know full well that every man who trusts in man is cursed, so ultimately any attempt at a hardcore Republic will be destined to fail, no matter how well-meaning the founders may be. Under divine Law (the only law which has substance) each man is responsible for his own experience. It is a lie to say that I will, or am able to, dispatch the duties that only belong to you. Freedom without vigilance will ever be short-lived. We are meant to wake up in this dream, and foisting our individual responsibility upon a group of elected officials is both lazy and dishonest.
Other than that it was great! It will get people thinking, and that is needed even more than having the right framework.
It wasn't just who he was praying to that bothered me, however. It was the deeply Religious (read: tritely self-righteous) way in which he prayed.
Then it hit me: he's talking about wresting back every man's sovereignty from the Fiction and then turning that same hard-won sovereignty over to a properly-elected group of representatives. I know full well that every man who trusts in man is cursed, so ultimately any attempt at a hardcore Republic will be destined to fail, no matter how well-meaning the founders may be. Under divine Law (the only law which has substance) each man is responsible for his own experience. It is a lie to say that I will, or am able to, dispatch the duties that only belong to you. Freedom without vigilance will ever be short-lived. We are meant to wake up in this dream, and foisting our individual responsibility upon a group of elected officials is both lazy and dishonest.
Other than that it was great! It will get people thinking, and that is needed even more than having the right framework.
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Re: What do you guys think of this
by Keith » Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:43 am
Seamus wrote:I was with him, mostly, until he started praying to the impostor Jehovah. Not that Jehovah isn't one with all of us. He is, but he is being very persistently stubborn about elevating himself above his fellow-beings at this time.
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Thanks seamus, this was the bit that got to me too, I could feel something inside at that point.
Something was not sitting right with me there.
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